tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16607511.post5622323633216812661..comments2008-04-30T16:03:05.298-03:00Comments on Bahá’í Thought: Ridvan: Paradise is PoliticalPhillipe Copelandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18342490962831946701noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16607511.post-13454539275956409112008-04-30T16:03:00.000-03:002008-04-30T16:03:00.000-03:002008-04-30T16:03:00.000-03:00*I meant to say: "I'm not really certain of its im...*I meant to say: "I'm not really certain of its implications..."Jalalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04331841530005665004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16607511.post-76377291776908192002008-04-30T15:52:00.000-03:002008-04-30T15:52:00.000-03:002008-04-30T15:52:00.000-03:00Welcome Jalal! It is true that Baha'u'llah makes m...Welcome Jalal! It is true that Baha'u'llah makes many statements in the Writings that have both direct and indirect implications for governance and leadership of our societies. I'll join you in pondering these things deeply. <BR/><BR/>Keep commenting.Phillipe Copelandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18342490962831946701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16607511.post-27198575246158243322008-04-30T14:32:00.000-03:002008-04-30T14:32:00.000-03:002008-04-30T14:32:00.000-03:00Phil,I've been reading your blog for a while, and ...Phil,<BR/><BR/>I've been reading your blog for a while, and I loved this post so I decided to comment.<BR/><BR/>That Ridvan is a Festival symbolic of the Power of Baha'u'llah is an amazing new concept to me. I'm sure I will reflect deeper on this each year.<BR/><BR/>Regarding political power, about a year ago I was reading Baha'u'llah's "Epistle to the Son of the Wolf" and this passage struck me because of its support of monarchy. I'm really certain of its implications but I think that it relates directly to your post.<BR/><I>It is now incumbent upon His Majesty the Sháh—may God, exalted be He, protect him—to deal with this people with loving-kindness and mercy. This Wronged One pledgeth Himself, before the Divine Kaaba, that, apart from truthfulness and trustworthiness, this people will show forth nothing that can in any way conflict with the world-adorning views of His Majesty. Every nation must have a high regard for the position of its sovereign, must be submissive unto him, must carry out his behests, and hold fast his authority. The sovereigns of the earth have been and are the manifestations of the power, the grandeur and the majesty of God. This Wronged One hath at no time dealt deceitfully with anyone. Every one is well aware of this, and beareth witness unto it. Regard for the rank of sovereigns is divinely ordained, as is clearly attested by the words of the Prophets of God and His chosen ones. He Who is the Spirit (Jesus)—may peace be upon Him—was asked: “O Spirit of God! Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar or not?” And He made reply: “Yea, render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s.” He forbade it not. These two sayings are, in the estimation of men of insight, one and the same, for if that which belonged to Caesar had not come from God, He would have forbidden it. And likewise in the sacred verse: “Obey God and obey the Apostle, and those among you invested with authority.” By “those invested with authority” is meant primarily and more especially the Imáms—the blessings of God rest upon them! They, verily, are the manifestations of the power of God, and the sources of His authority, and the repositories of His knowledge, and the daysprings of His commandments. Secondarily these words refer unto the kings and rulers—those through the brightness of whose justice the horizons of the world are resplendent and luminous. </I>Jalalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04331841530005665004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16607511.post-89104357504388631542008-04-19T20:06:00.000-03:002008-04-19T20:06:00.000-03:002008-04-19T20:06:00.000-03:00Well said Victor, though Francophile lefties aren'...Well said Victor, though Francophile lefties aren't the only ones who like to talk about this. How power is addressed in the Baha'i Writings is well worth a book in itself. I'm hoping to start a little study of that once my semester is over, and yes I think the Baha'i approach to the question is different and addresses the contested nature of power nicely through the Covenant. That's for another post.Phillipe Copelandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18342490962831946701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16607511.post-33021219512040860352008-04-19T17:19:00.000-03:002008-04-19T17:19:00.000-03:002008-04-19T17:19:00.000-03:00Ah yes, power -- that all-purpose term beloved of ...Ah yes, power -- that all-purpose term beloved of the Francophile left! Power circulates, this much we know; and it's creative and destructive -- granted. However, what do we do about the uneven distribution. I think Baha'u'llah has a better answer than Foucault, who leaves out the question of the source of all power. And you're right, there's a political issue involved. A brief definition of politics might be "the struggle over the distribution of power." Those who have more of it don't want to give it up, and those with less want more of it, or despair of getting more. New religions always threaten the distribution of power, which is why the "powerful" are always against them.<BR/>We have a better approach: With unity, the struggle will, if not end, at least be greatly diminished -- but I expect I'll be watching that outcome from the next world.<BR/>Victor Kulkosky<BR/>http://outofmymind.wordpress.comVictor Kulkoskyhttp://outofmymind.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com